Penned in Ink is a storytelling podcast about marriage, commitment, and the art of building a life together.

Hosted by Michael and Melissa Penwell, high school sweethearts celebrating 30+ years of marriage, each episode explores the real work, laughter, and growth that come with a long-term relationship.

Whether you’re newly married, in the thick of raising kids, or rediscovering your relationship as empty nesters, this is your place for stories of lasting love, real talk, and hope for what’s possible.
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#9

Tech Boundaries for Couples: How Tech Changes Love and Connection

Today, we are talking about how technology changes relationships, dating, and marriage. Our relationship started before the internet and before cell phones, so we have a unique lens on what has shifted, and we also see today’s realities through our daughters’ experiences and Melissa’s work as a counselor.We dig into 24/7 connectivity and the pressure to respond instantly, the real pros and cons of dating apps, and how social media creates a highlight reel that makes people feel like they are the only ones struggling. We also explore the problem of technoference, when your phone, or other tech device, interrupts connection in real time, and we talk about digital privacy, oversharing, and why everything you post online is more permanent than you think.We close with the specific tech boundaries we use in our marriage and a Pen to Paper challenge to help you set tech guardrails that actually protect trust in your relationship.If you are ready to take control of your tech boundaries in your relationship, download our FREE guide to get started now.Setting Tech Boundaries: A Conversation Guide for CouplesSubscribe for more conversations about marriage, commitment, and building long-lasting love.Chapters00:00 – Welcome and introduction01:11 – Dating before the internet and cell phones06:55 – Navigating tech challenges in modern relationships08:52 – 24/7 connectivity and the pressure to respond immediately10:25 – Dating app pros and cons16:39 – Social media’s impact on your relationship22:51 – Personal technology security24:30 – Permanency of online content25:13 – Bullying and cyber stalking26:21 – Inked Moments: The “babies are coming” pager29:08 – Healthy tech habits41:02 – Pen to Paper: Discuss and set digital boundaries in your relationship44:49 – Closing thoughts
#8

Money and Marriage: Building Financial Trust in Your Relationship

Money fights are one of the most common sources of stress in relationships, but they don’t have to be. In this episode of Penned in Ink, we talk openly about money, marriage, and how financial transparency builds long-term trust.We share how our early money habits were formed, why avoiding “the money talk” creates hidden tension, and how couples can align financially without control, shame, or fear. We also tackle one of the biggest debates online: should couples combine finances or keep them separate?If you and your partner disagree about spending, feel anxious talking about money, or want a healthier financial foundation for marriage, this conversation is for you.In this episode, we cover:How childhood money experiences shape adult financial habitsWhen couples should have the money talk and what it should includeSpender vs saver dynamics and why goals matter more than labelsWho should manage the money and why budgeting must be sharedCombining finances vs separate accounts and the real pros and consRed flags vs yellow flags during financial conversationsHow transparency builds trust and prevents financial infidelityPen to Paper Challenge:Have you and your partner had a real money conversation? If not, this episode gives you a practical roadmap for when to talk, how to set it up, and what honesty actually looks like. We have also created a FREE guide to help you get started.Get your FREE guide titled "The Money Talk Starter Guide"If this episode resonates, leave a comment and let us know how you and your partner manage money. And if you’re navigating finances before marriage, share this with someone who needs to hear it.Chapters00:00 – Episode teaser00:29 – Welcome and introduction01:43 – Developing your early money habits07:07 – Having “the money talk”20:02 – Inked Moments: Starting our retirement planning22:48 – Who should manage the finances in a relationship?30:14 – The power of combining finances in marriage44:00 – Pen to Paper: How to have “the money talk”55:08 – Closing thoughtsReference ArticleGen Z Is Doing Something Before Marriage That Most Americans Never DidJOIN the Penned in Ink Community for UpdatesWATCH on YouTubeConnect with Us on Instagram
#7

Is Marriage Still Worth It? A Candid Look at Commitment Today

Is marriage still worth it today, or has commitment lost its value? In this episode of Penned in Ink, we take a direct and honest look at one of the biggest questions people are asking right now: Should you still get married? Drawing from over 30 years of marriage, our lived experience, and Melissa’s work as a professional counselor, we talk honestly about why so many people hesitate to commit and what marriage actually offers when it is built intentionally.We don’t romanticize marriage, and we don’t dismiss its challenges. Instead, we explore the real emotional, social, financial, and long-term realities of commitment. From fear of losing independence to anxiety about divorce, from financial pressure to cultural skepticism, we unpack the doubts we hear every day and explain why a strong marriage can still be a powerful framework for building a meaningful life together.This episode isn’t about convincing everyone to get married. It’s about helping you think clearly, ask better questions, and understand what commitment can look like when it’s healthy, mutual, and intentional.💬 In this episode, we discuss:Why commitment and marriage feel riskier today than they did in the pastThe most common doubts we hear about marriage, including fear of divorce and loss of independenceThe difference between being married and simply living togetherEmotional benefits of long-term commitment and having a true partnerSocial and health impacts of marriage, especially for menFinancial realities of marriage, including stability, shared goals, and long-term wealthWhy marriage is not only for religious peopleThe difference between staying married and building a strong marriageHow healthy marriages model stability for future generationsWhy marriage can be a force multiplier when it’s built the right way🎧 Listen if you are…Questioning whether marriage is still worth itFeeling hesitant about long-term commitmentCurious about the real benefits and challenges of marriageLooking for honest, experience-based perspectives on relationshipsWanting to build something that lasts rather than settlingChapters00:00 – Episode teaser00:29 – Welcome and introduction01:29 – Modern doubts about marriage01:50 – Doubt 1: Fear of losing your independence03:09 – Doubt 2: It’s just a piece of paper03:25 – Doubt 3: Fear of divorce04:49 – Doubt 4: Marriage is only for the religious05:28 – The case for marriage06:22 – Reason 1: Emotional benefits of marriage07:54 – Reason 2: Social benefits of marriage11:02 – Reason 3: Financial benefits of marriage16:17 – Reason 4: Someone to grow old with18:14 – Reason 5: Optimal structure to raise children22:17 – Inked Moments: When Melissa questioned commitment27:48 – Commitment beyond marriage34:20 – Pen to Paper: How to weigh the benefits of marriage38:29 – Closing thoughtsJOIN the Penned in Ink Community for UpdatesWATCH on YouTubeConnect with Us on Instagram
#6

Big Decisions & Bigger Bonds: Navigating Life’s Milestones Together

Ever have to make a big life decision? At some point we are all faced with life-defining decisions. In this episode, we take you inside the biggest decisions we have made across three decades together and show you why celebrating milestones is one of the most powerful tools for building long-lasting love. From cross-country moves and the decision to have more kids or not to eliminating debt and supporting our daughter through a life-changing medical diagnosis, we explore how shared decision-making strengthens trust, creates resilience, and deepens emotional connection. We also highlight the often-overlooked importance of celebrating small wins in your relationship, not just the major life events.We share clear examples couples can learn from: how to evaluate major life choices, how aligned goals fuel momentum, and how celebration, big or small, reinforces the belief that you are building something meaningful together.We start with a discussion around the real process behind our biggest joint decisions, includingA cross-country move for a career opportunityDeciding if we wanted a third child and the emotional work behind the choiceLeaning in to eliminate all debt, including our mortgage, and how it changed our family’s futureNext, we explore how celebrating milestones builds resilience and why couples must actively mark wins to reinforce connection. We highlight the impact of three big celebrations, includingA 70s-themed 50th birthday celebration and the unexpected benefits of simply throwing a partyOur 25th-anniversary trip to Scotland and the renewal that came from our adventure togetherSeeing our daughters graduate from college and launch into adult life, which felt like a huge win for usWe then share our most personal story to date when we discuss how resilience formed through earlier wins helped us navigate our daughter’s diagnosis with fascioscapulohumeral muscular dystrophy (FSHD).💬 Key themes:Aligned decision-making builds trust. Major life choices become easier when couples evaluate trade-offs together using shared criteria, such as a long-term vision and emotional readiness.Celebration reinforces connection. Marking milestones creates positive emotional anchors that relationships can draw strength from in harder seasons.Resilience is built, not born. The work you do as a couple will equip you for the good times, which will prepare you for the storms we can’t predict.Financial clarity is relational clarity. Getting on the same financial page can eliminate stress and open doors for meaningful shared experiences.Small wins matter. Relationship growth often happens in daily moments of courage, communication, and new habits.🎧 Listen if you are…Someone navigating major life decisions such as career moves, finances, or family planning, and want real examples of how couples make those choices together.Looking for practical ways to build resilience and strengthen your relationship before tough seasons arrive.Wanting to understand how celebrating milestones (big and small) can transform the emotional health of a long-term partnership.Chapters00:00 – Episode teaser00:29 – Welcome and introduction02:19 – Big Decision #1 – Moving cross-country for a career opportunity06:03 – Big Decision #2 – To have another child or not13:04 – Big Decision #3 – To fully get out of debt, and to live a debt-free life16:48 – Inked Moments: Throwing Michael’s 50th birthday party20:21 – Importance of celebrating milestones23:25 – Big Milestone #1 – 25th Anniversary trip to Scotland26:22 – Big Milestone #2 – Our children graduating from college28:33 – Big Milestone #3 – A wedding celebration31:02 – Story of resilience – Alexa’s diagnosis32:40 – Impact of Alexa’s diagnosis on our relationship38:55 – Pen to Paper: Celebrate the small milestones45:12 – Closing thoughtsLearn more about facioscapulohumeral muscular dystrophy (FSHD)JOIN the Penned in Ink Community for UpdatesWATCH on YouTubeConnect with Us on Instagram
#5

Navigating Young Love: Communication, Conflict, and Growing Together

Let’s talk about “young love.” This could mean you are young and in love or that you are simply in the early days of your relationship. In this episode, we explore how early relationship habits set the stage for lifelong connection. Our long-lasting love started super early (in our teens!) and has grown and changed over the years.We begin by identifying 10 potential areas of relationship conflict. Spoiler alert… they cover almost every aspect of our lives! And then we dive deeper into three of them: communication, time management, and shared responsibility. Through candid stories, humor, and hard-earned wisdom, we show how every couple can turn friction into growth.Next, we explore how our abilities to manage and address conflict have grown over the years of our marriage. Our conversation spans decades of marriage from our twenties to our fifties. This longevity offers a rare window into how communication and conflict evolve over time.We close with a lighthearted discussion of mistakes we all make, and are still making today, with the goal of letting you know that you are not unique in your struggle to manage conflict in your long-lasting love.💬 Key themes:Communication and Misinterpretation: How the shift from face-to-face conversations to digital messaging has changed tone, timing, and understanding in relationships.Balancing Priorities in Early Love: Learning to manage school/work, extended family, and romance without making your partner feel secondary.Emotional Labor and Relationship Equity: Recognizing and sharing the invisible work that keeps relationships strong.Growth Through Decades of Change: How communication and conflict evolve across a lifetime of love and partnership.Humor, Reflection, and Practical Application: Using laughter and small daily actions to turn ordinary moments into lasting growth.🎧 Listen if you are…In the early stages of a relationship or marriageTrying to understand how to communicate without misreading tone or intentLearning how to balance individuality and togethernessCurious how long-term couples adapt through each decade of lifeChapters00:00 – Episode teaser00:29 – Welcome and introduction01:46 – Core areas of conflict in relationships03:17 – Quick rundown of 10 identified areas of conflict06:51 – Deep dive into communication style & emotional expression11:40 – Deep dive into time management & prioritization18:36 – Deep dive into emotional labor & relationship maintenance23:48 – Inked Moments: Pet peeves from early days of living together26:54 – How has our communication evolved over the years together?40:34 – Common relationship mistakes and how to avoid them47:18 – Pen to Paper: Address issues early48:58 – Closing thoughtsJOIN the Penned in Ink Community for UpdatesWATCH on YouTubeConnect with Us on Instagram